
Embracing the Past
An interview with Sky Captain director, Kerry Conran
Director
Kerry Conran’s “Sky
Captain and the World of Tomorrow” is a
look back at how people of 1940s and 1950s saw the future through
comic books, pulp novels and serials of the era.
His film is also a unification of mediums because of his breakthrough
use of CGI technology which allows actors to travel back into
that era without the aid of giant expensive sets, long on-location
shoots and extensive continuity editing.
It truly is amazing that his story began with a small six-minute
film which he crafted in his garage. That small film was entitled,
“The World of Tomorrow”. It took Conran years to cobble
it together but he stuck to his vision. With the use of a basic
Apple personal computer, Conran spent long hours on the tiniest
of details so that his noir/serial world could become real. His
persistence paid off and eventually it garnered the attention
of Hollywood director-producer Jon Avnet. And the rest as they
say is history.
How does a man change the way we view things by sitting in his
garage? What other plans does he have for the future? And what
inspires such a visionary?
I had a chance to sit down with Kerry Conran, via telephone, and
talk about his new “world of tomorrow”.
Soothsayer:
So what influences did you have when you were a
kid? And how did they help flesh out the film?
Conran: A lot of my influences came from the
old serials of the 1940s and 1950s that I would watch when I was
a kid. I imagined what it would be like if they created a science
fiction film of that era using the styles and sensibilities which
they knew. But it was also in taking advantage of the technology
today to realize something that they couldn’t realize back
then but also be evocative and reinterpret it at the same time.
Soothsayer: Do you have any favorite serials?
Conran: I have tons of them but especially “King
of the Rocketmen” and “Commander
Cody”.
Soothsayer: That is exactly what I was thinking.
Conran: “King of the Rocketmen”
was really well made and one of the more entertaining of the serials.
I also looked at “The Masked Marvel”
and “Captain Marvel” certainly.
Soothsayer: I just watched “Captain
Marvel” again last weekend.
Conran: Oh you did. They are just fun. They were
the first attempt at really bringing these comics to life. They
made the best with what they had and many of them were quite successful.
Soothsayer: Do you have any other serials from
that era that you would like to bring forward to the cinema today?
Conran: It’s hard to say. I was really
a big fan of the “The Masked Marvel”.
I also really think that the “The Rocketeer”
really embodied “Commander Cody”.
Soothsayer: Yeah I really love “The
Rocketeer”, the film and the comic.
Conran: The comic is beautiful. But I don’t
know if there are any existing serials or comics that I would
personally like to see because I sort of did that with this film.
The film is a composite of all those and I am pretty content with
what we did.
Soothsayer: Here is sort of an odd question;
is Polly Perkins (Gwyneth Paltrow in the film) more Brenda Starr
or Lois Lane?
Conran: I think absolutely Lois Lane. But also
I would have to say some of Lauren Bacall in “Have
and Have Not”, Barbara Stanwyck and Jean Arthur.
There is probably even some of Rosalind Russell in “His
Girl Friday”. But I think she was probably most
patterned after Lois Lane.
Soothsayer:
So how important was it to have Production Designer and your brother,
Kevin, on the film?
Conran: Oh it was huge. Kevin and I were able
to work in almost shorthand. We didn’t have a lot of resources
starting out and we didn’t have to go through any designs
to arrive at what I was shooting for. We also shared in common
a very similar aesthetic and with that we knew exactly what we
were trying to get at. We also knew what each other was capable
of. In that regards, it was a huge part of this film.
Soothsayer: Do you feel a kindred connection
to legendary animator Max Fleischer?
Conran: Yeah, I think that. I think the Superman
films of that era were just great films. I think apart from being
great pieces of animation that really stands up to this day. They
were also great pieces of film noir in a way. We actually used
those cartoons and started breaking them down from more of the
aesthetic point of view but also from a technical standpoint.
We tried to understand how an animated film was constructed and
a lot of the problems that they had to deal with and solve.
For instance, when we had to create a cityscape we couldn’t
afford to populate it nor did we have the time to create thousands
and thousands of people. Back then when they were hand-animating
they couldn’t draw or animate thousands and thousands of
characters.
When you study it, you realize that maybe they only used maybe
three to ten characters at the most. They used a source of sound,
composition and shadows to sell all sorts of things.
We carried through a lot of those concepts and conventions into
the film. I think that you will probably notice that there are
probably no more than ten people on screen at a time and I hope
that you don’t feel cheated that there isn’t a city
teeming with people.
Soothsayer: Even back in the film noir films
with Orson Welles there never was very many people on screen at
a time.
Conran: Never. The very distinctive look of film
noir came about from some of the very similar problems we had,
no money. And it was the use of light and shadow, which also came
from the B-rated horror films, which helped disguise that fact.
Then it ended up becoming a distinctive style that was then duplicated
historically.
Soothsayer: My first feeling when coming out
of Sky Captain that it was indeed “Max Fleischer
come to life”.
Conran: Yeah, I think that is quite an apt description.
Soothsayer:
There is a rumor that you will be directing the adaptation of
Edgar Rice Burroughs “A Princess of Mars”,
the first novel in the John Carter of Mars series. Is that true?
Conran: That seems to be true.
Soothsayer: Are you a fan of those books as well?
Conran:
Oh, sure. It had been many years since I had last read them and
I have subsequently reread them. But I think in those books in
particular you can see where George Lucas developed some of his
ideas for “Star Wars” and where J.R.R.
Tolkien came up with some of his ideas for “The
Lord of the Rings” even. In a way the John Carter
story is a combination of those two worlds. I also think that
in that aspect it will be quite the opportunity and challenge
to do something that audiences have quite seen before.
Soothsayer: I have been collecting some of the
works of Edgar Rice Burroughs for going on 10 years now and I
even have some Canadian first editions. I was so excited when
John Carter was first optioned.
Conran: The film is going to be an enormous undertaking
but we are excited and thrilled that we have been given the chance
to finally bring it to life.
Soothsayer: Tars Tarkas, the four-armed man is
going to be quite the challenge I imagine.
Conran: It is going to be quite tricky. But aside
from it technically it is going to be hard to ring-out a performance
especially since we want it to be a real and rich character.
Soothsayer: Did you ever see a rather bad ‘80s
sci-fi movie called “Krull”?
Conran: Sure.
Soothsayer: Do you remember the Cyclops in “Krull”?
Conran: Vaguely. I really don’t remember
the movie very well other than the title.
Soothsayer: You might want to go back and look
at that film again. In part, at least in my vision, the Cyclops
in “Krull” is what I think that Tars
Tarkas, the four-armed guy’s personality would be like.
Conran: Really? Oh, wow. I will.
Soothsayer: Did you hear that Ashton Kutcher
is the front runner to play Flash Gordon?
Conran: Oh, no. Well that sums that up.
Soothsayer: Are we going to see your six-minute
film, “The World of Tomorrow” on the DVD?
Conran: Yeah, it will be on the DVD. Unfortunately
it is 10 years old now but it is very evocative of the film that
it became. Actually some of the shots are out rate duplicated.
But it is a black-and-white version of what we ultimately created.
Soothsayer: There has been so much talk about
the little film that it will be interesting to finally see it.
Conran: (laughs) I just hope you’re not
disappointed.
Soothsayer: Do you have any messages for all
those independent filmmakers still stuck in their garages?
Conran:
The main thing is not to give up. I have said this before but
I really think that we are sort living through a renaissance period
in a way that technology has now been made available, in particular
to filmmakers. It has almost become the desktop publishing craze
of many years ago that empowered people to become their own publishers.
I think that the tools exist now that allow independent filmmakers
to create something that really rivals what studios could have
dreamed up years ago. This new technology is a great opportunity
for filmmakers. You just have to have that desire and that project
to believe in. Where there is a will there is a way and I am living
proof of that.
Soothsayer: Thanks so much Mr. Conran for taking
the time with me. It also think that on some level that we are
kind of kindred spirits.
Conran: Very much so.
Soothsayer: I hope we will have a chance to chat
again when John Carter comes out and thank you.
Conran: Without a doubt. Thank you.
Sometimes we have to look at the past to embrace the future. In
Kerry Conran’s case, he not only looked back but also saw
the future through their eyes. Conran’s “Sky Captain
and the World of Tomorrow” is not only a homage to the past
but it also helps us understand their vision of the future and
in some ways our own.
SO SAYS THE SOOTHSAYER
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Opens September 17, 2004
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