
An Interview with Mark Wahlberg, Tyrese, André Benjamin
and Garrett Hedlund
A few days ago
I had the opportunity to talk to the cast, Mark Wahlberg, Tyrese
Gibson, Andre Benjamin, and Garrett Hedlund about their upcoming
revenge flick Four
Brothers. The all play the Mercer brothers,
who are out to seek revenge after their adoptive mother who
is murdered during a grocery store. Hotheaded Bobby (Mark Wahlberg),
hard-edged Angel (Tyrese Gibson), family man and businessman
Jeremiah (Andre Benjamin), and hard rocking Jack (Garrett Hedlund)
– reunite to take the matter of her death into their own
hands as they track down the killer. Below is what they had
to say to us:
How
did you get this brotherly bond going in such a short period?
Benjamin:
I can say that it was a blessing, because I'm an only child,
and so you know, going to a movie called 'Four Brothers,' you
know, you show up on set, and we didn't have time to rehearse,
usually you have weeks to rehearse with the cast, and so we
had a week and then we pretty much just did hockey, hockey practice.
So a lot of bonding came from playing hockey and going out at
night, but it was natural, you know, everybody's personality
was cool, no egos, we laughed, and joked, and I mean, we got
so comfortable, you know, we could talk about each other. Even
like racial jokes, because we knew about it – you know
how it was, black white black white, brother type thing, so
it was cool.
Tyrese: Honestly, it wasn't planned, it wasn't
a transition from playing hockey to the dinner, it was just
– it was good energy, when you're in Canada, it's cold
as hell, your body itself, you just kind of get around people
with good energy, and it's nothing you can really force, it's
nothing that's contrived, it's a natural flow. You ever get
around all four of us at the same time, you'll see, you will
feel like that's some brotherly love, we're not brothers, it's
love.
Wahlberg: You gotta sing that song, man.
Tyrese: Yeah, whatever.
Wahlberg: You guys gotta get him to sing, he
wrote a song about having sex with Sofia [Vergara] on the washing
machine.
Did you
know about this?
Wahlberg:
Oh yeah, he sang it yesterday!
Tyrese: No man, I don't want to do no singing
man, please.
Wahlberg: And all personal questions should
be directed to Tyrese. He has a much more exciting personal
life. Sex life is crazy, he's twenty-five, he's a fire cracker.
[Laughs]
Is this
what happens instantly, this rapport?
Wahlberg:
The whole movie, yeah, it was non-stop. It was remarkable that
we actually got to shoot some stuff, and still be able to tell
the story. Of these guys trying to avenge their mother's death,
as opposed to trying to one up each other.
Tyrese: Yeah, it was stupid on the set, you
know, but that's what it is, that's what it's supposed to be,
you know, you get around four guys, and they gotta be around
each other freezing like hell out there in Canada, you gotta
have some kind of good energy going to get through it, and get
past all of the reality of that. So it worked out perfect.
Wahlberg: There were never any compliments
being passed around, that's for sure.
What were
some of the nicknames you had on set?
Benjamin:
We always got on [Hedlund] his hair size. Because he had this
hairdo, you know, he'd come out of the trailer in the morning,
with this big bouffant, type thing. So we always got him about
that, they got on my clothes, they said it was too tight. Actually
the line, the line in the movie, (Big Teeth) that was made up.
After that day, I just knew, I said well Tyrese, you know, for
the rest of my life, people are gonna talk about my teeth because
of that line.
Wahlberg: Oh non-stop. I hadn't seen these
guys for a couple months, we get to the ESPY's, and I just get
out of the car, I'm happy to see them, the first thing they're
talking about my shoes, my hair, my jacket.
Tyrese: I'm still trying to find out where
you get a hat that size.
Wahlberg: Listen, I was so happy that Garrett
[Hedlund] was cast in the movie, because I finally found someone
who's head is actually bigger than mine. So I had all these
head jokes that were used on me, and I was just whoa, I was
using the words. They thought I should be stand up and shit
because I had so many jokes, but these were, you know, I used
to be the butt end of them. But I think since then he's had
head reduction surgery or something, because – or he did
something with his hair, or his face shrunk or something, because
his head is not big.
That
day when you were freezing your ass off, describe that day just
briefly and then contrast that with feeling welcome or not in
the city during the making of this movie.
Hedlund:
All the scenes that were sort of shot towards the beginning
were horrendous, because it was January in Canada. I was from
Minnesota, so I was a little more adapted to that sort of weather,
you know, more than these guys, but blood thinned out as well,
and it got fucking cold up there.
Benjamin: And I called my wife, it was actually
– it was scenes, like the scene on like the white area,
where you didn't see any land. We were shooting on top of a
lake, it's frozen, so it's kind of like a human standing on
a big block of ice. And there were no trees to stop the wind,
and it was just so cold, that my mouth would freeze up, and
I'd have to warm it up so I could say my lines. It was so –
I have never been that cold in my life.
What was
it like learning how to ice skate?
Tyrese:
I already knew how to roller blade, because I used to skate
in school when I was broke as hell and couldn't afford the Dash
bus, twenty five cents, so when I couldn't find a quarter to
get to school, I'd always pull them blades out to get there.
In line skating you just had to go from the blades to the ice,
so I was out there doing my thing.
Garrett
you arrived in L.A. and immediately got cast, is that true,
or did you struggle?
Hedlund:
Well I mean, you know, prior to going out there, I sort of picked
up the book and started studying, you know, reading anything
I could to sort of just increase that ability to sort of analyze
material and put myself in a character's shoes, with every novel,
every series sort of, you know, I'd see myself as that person,
so when it came time to read scripts, it was kind of –
it came a little more natural. I sort of, when I was in Arizona,
started reading scripts. Before I'd seen the movie, I don't
know if the bio's says that I'd watch the movie and sort of
then copy, but I mean, I'd read the scripts to the movies that
I haven't seen, and sort of take my take on the character and
sort of pretend that I was gonna go in, movies like 'Five Easy
Pieces,' and things with great actors when they were still young,
and the movies that started them off, and then after that I
would read from them, and then I'd watch the movie and see sort
of what they did, but the whole thing with that sort of study
was just to show myself that there were no rules, and that I
could actually follow my instincts and train my instincts to
sort of, you know, be about to go.
Did you
create this back story for yourself, your character, to explain
who you'd become?
Hedlund:
Yeah, you do, you write a complete back story, which will just
help you answer any questions that aren't, you know, answered
in the script. Anything that's not in the script is there in
your mind, so therefore writing back story definitely helps
you out. I remembered when I first started, even going in on
auditions, I would write fifteen pages of back story on the
character, from the beginning, from starting in this life, so
like what his fears are and just sort of about him, I almost
wrote it like a short story about this character, and sort of,
you know, even if it wasn't sort of almost the same as what's
on the page, but it's already then for becoming a character
in my mind.
André
you're still new to this, what's the allure for a recording
artist to go into acting? Is it a natural progression from videos?
Benjamin:
No, because videos and films are totally different. Because
you're hiding behind music, you know. And you pretty much just
lip sync. And in film, you know, they yell action, and it's
as quiet as it is in here, and you have to believe it, you know,
you have to go in to it.
André
you're the voice of reason, was it hard to be dramatic
when you're really so cool?
Benjamin:
Um, no, no that was, I think humans, you look for any chance
you can to do stuff like that, you know. By that time, like,
the character, you know, but I think you have to know –
and I don't know if they showed it that much in the film, but
growing up, we all were knuckleheads, we all did the street
thing, so we were all in the same boat, but I guess they moved
out of town, I stayed in Detroit. Like once you have a wife
and two kids, two girls, you kind of have to slow it down. And
I think I was the only voice of reason or the more responsible
one because of that, I had more to lose than any other of my
brothers. But at the same time, I still had pride, there were
certain scenes cut out of the movie, like I think, like me and
Tyrese were sitting at the table, me and Angel, I'm sorry, were
sitting at the table, and I think he's testing me, you know,
because they come back into town, I have a house, and a family,
so they're trying to play like I've softened up, you know, and
I kind of snap on him at the table, but I think they took it
out.
What do
you guys get from working with John Singleton?
Benjamin:
To always iron your clothes before you go outside. [laughs]
It was a joke on the set, we called him John Wrinkleton. Because
he always came wrinkled. No, but you know, [laughs] –
he, I think the intensity, I had a conversation with him, I
said like what's the difference between these two directors
and those two directors, and he always said I'm an old school
director. The people I study, they give the emotion out of the
movie, he said, if I feel like I can make you feel something,
I mean, visually, that's cool, you know, if it looks good that's
cool. But if I feel like I can make you laugh, if I can make
you cry, if I can make you sad, you know, if I can make you
like overjoyed and happy, then I feel like I'm doing my job,
so he looks for the emotion in it.
Hedlund: I came off with one good line from
John [Singleton], and that was if you're gonna steal, steal
from the best. And that's – I think that was one of the
best lines I'd hear him say.
Tyrese: I'm honored man, John Singleton could
call me with anything, because I know he's only gonna call me
with the right stuff, and I guess my biggest honor, which doesn't
happen too often, when you have somebody who's seen more of
you than you've seen yourself, for him to talk me into making
that transition, I'll never forget, he came to my house, living
in Hawthorne, showed up at my house, he was telling me all about
'Baby Boy,' and I was like, I can relate to the story, but I
still wasn't interested in acting. And he started reading the
script to me, just trying to force me to do it, but then he
was like ‘man fuck this, read this script man!’
[laughs] And then I was just like what do I have to do, you
know? Guy comes over here snapping on me. So that was it man,
but it's like the outcome of 'Baby Boy' and the other two films
we did together, this one and '2 Fast,' it's just like damn
man, I can't even believe that I'm doing it, can't believe that
he's seen that much in me and believed in me to put me in these
big positions, I mean, I'm number one on the call sheet for
'Baby Boy,' first time I ever acted, that's a big, big step
man, especially since Tupac was supposed to play the role. So
I love John, he can call me with anything, and I'll be on board,
no problem.
Wahlberg: And John must love him too, because he made so much
fun of John. I mean, he called John, John Wrinkleton because
his clothes were wrinkled. He makes fun of John non-stop, all
day, you know. John and I have been friends for a long time,
we've always talked about doing something, and here was something
that was just perfect for both of us, so, it made perfect sense.
And it was great to be able to work with somebody that you can
kind of communicate with and collaborate with and trust. We
had our eyes on the prize, it was like, let's not water this
thing down at all, let's not add the girlfriend for you, let's
really push the envelope, and hopefully the chemistry will make
you guys likeable enough that the audience will go on the ride
with you.
What
was the appeal of doing this film?
Wahlberg:
Everything was appealing to me, as far as the material. John
[Singleton] hadn't signed on to direct yet, but I'd been looking
for something that I would actually want to go and see, and
this is a throwback to all the great anti-hero, character driven
movies that I've been raised on, so it was ideal for me.
Do you
identify with the anti-hero persona?
Wahlberg:
Uh, certainly more than I identify with the guy who's better
looking than the girl he's starring opposite. You know, I grew
up watching [James] Cagney and [Steve] McQueen, and real guys'
guys. So yeah, those are, you know, [Robert] DeNiro in 'Taxi
Driver,' or even a revenge movie like 'Death Wish' with Charles
Bronson, those are guys that – they're guys' guys, definitely.
Mark, Singleton
relates your path to this character, and thinks it's important
for you to use more of that in your work.
Wahlberg:
Definitely, me too, me too. I think out of all the movies that
I've made, those are the kind of movies that people still talk
about most. And I certainly want to make movies now, I figure
I've done enough movies with directors who have accomplished
certain things in their past, to not have to kind of make movies
just because of the right director, even though I don't like
the material.
Tyrese: I thought 'Planet of the Apes' was a much better performance.
[Laughs]
Wahlberg: So if Tim Burton wants to take it to the street, then
we can make another movie.
How
much of your background have you suppressed in order to do the
kind of career you've had to date?
Wahlberg:
Yeah, I mean, but it's always been in the reserve tank. You
know, it's right there, to tap into. You know, I just, I have
to contain it, because, like in this movie, you start kind of
becoming the guy, and you know, the people that work with me
or for me didn't appreciate it too much, because Bobby Mercer
is givin' some tough love, do you know what I mean? Hard pressed
like I said, the complements were being thrown around like manhole
covers, there wasn't too many of them.
How long
did it take you to shake that? As soon as you finished?
Wahlberg:
Well then I jumped into 'The Departed,' which is an even more
of an asshole, so it's like, you know. But surprisingly, at
least there's a great twist to that movie too. You'll be surprised
at it.
Speaking
of The Departed you work with Leonardo DiCaprio again since
The Basketball Diaries, how was the reunion?
Wahlberg:
It was cool, I mean, we've worked together before, so. No, it
was cool, it was cool working with Matt [Damon] and with Jack
[Nicholson] and with Alec [Baldwin], and Martin Sheen, and [Martin]
Scorsese. You know, I get to really push, you know, the level
of asshole in that movie.
You had
reservations about the bathroom scene, right Tyrese?
Wahlberg:
He had a lot of reservations, man!
It
flows well, very real. After seeing the final product, what
were your thoughts?
Wahlberg:
Still wasn't comfortable in it.
Tyrese: I don't know man, I like the film over
all, but I'm saying I don't know about that one scene still.
It's a little –
But it's
the intimacy of brothers.
Wahlberg:
Yeah, I grew up in a household with many people and
one bathroom, you know. Nine kids and two parents.
Tyrese: I can understand, I can understand
the concept. It's just certain things that you just kind of,
as you get older, even though you come up in that environment
with all these brothers, as you get older, there's just oh no,
no, we gonna make, go ahead and do what you're doing, go on
and do what you're doing, it kind of gets into that mold, to
walk in and my brother's – I'm not trying to smell that
for one, I'm not trying to look through no see through curtains
to see my other brother over here doing whatever he's doing,
I'm not gonna ask him to look down my pants and look at my john,
you know, I will probably tell him about it, but I wouldn't
like yo, what you think? That was a little much for me, but
I mean, I got through it.