
We now had the chance
to speak with Kathleen Kennedy. A woman who's name is almost
always right next to Spielberg's in the opening credits of
his films.
You
managed to miss the floods huh?
Kennedy: Actually we've had knock on wood, such amazing luck with the
weather cause we were back East and we though winter could
approach us at any moment. Then we got back here and we had
mostly interiors when the rain hit. It was meant to be, the
movie was meant to be.
Can you talk about
the challenge of starting about a movie in November that's
coming out in July with big movie stars and visual FX shots?
Kennedy: I don't think there is any way we could have done this without
having Steven as a director. He's so clear, we've been using "pre-vis" extensively
on this in a way that I think it's a tool that he uses as effectively
as anybody I've ever seen use it. It's really been a fantastic
communication tool. I also feel that we have the unique situation
that almost everybody- and I've been making movies with Steven
for 25 years and there's a handful in excess of 15020 years
involved in this movie- so that's another key component.
What's pre-vis?
Kennedy: We did a very down and dirty "pre-vis" on
'Jurassic Park'- its basically creating cartoons on a computer
and we took storyboarding and moved the pictures very very
limited way- now with high speed computing and what not we
have much more extensive moment in what we're creating. So
you get a clear idea of the pacing of the film and you really
start to lock in on how long a scene is going to run. We don't
get into obviously trying to animate actors or anything like
that, but it does give us a very clear idea of exactly what
part of the location we're going to see.
For example we went
out in August we scouted all the locations of the movie and
scanned everything into the computer. Then we actually built
the sequences around the actual locations we were going to
shoot into. So if there was a building on one end of the street
and Steven knew he was going to stage a key action moment around
that building we can see exactly what we were going to actually
need to either rebuild or add or destroy or whatever was necessary
for the scene. So it's a really really valuable tool now used
in filmmaking.
As I brought up before
it's so important to have someone like Steven because a lot
of people allow the artist to go off and do their own version
based on the script without minute to minute input from the
director. Steven literally lived in the same office with the
guys who were creating this on the computer. He would stand
there over their should and say, "No no I want a 35mm
on this, I want the camera down here," it would be very
similar to what he would do on the location. It's an extremely
accurate representation of what he is shooting.
Is this latest treatment
of extraterrestrial life by Spielberg- is it pure imagination
or does it come from science or theory in any way?
Kennedy: First it comes from HG Wells. He wrote an extraordinary story
in 1887 that has aspects today that are amazingly relevant,
so we have to give him a tremendous amount of credit. Clearly
staging the action sequences - yes Steven is making that up,
but so much of the story was inspired by what was in the book.
Almost the entire cellar sequence for instance is right out
of HG Wells.
So what's relevant
to today?
Kennedy: Wells write the story ads a reaction against British imperialism
and colonialism and the whole superpower issue going on in
politics today, there is a kind of relevancy to what he was
reacting to. This is similar to what people around the world
are reacting to today, not to suggest that we're doing a political
movie in any way. But it does give a kind of subtext, what
is also interesting about Wells is that the story had a very
strong personal point a view and that's something that Steven
and David kept immediately sending on to bring into this contemporary
version. You've got a real sense of this man and his family
and who he was and what he was fighting for and how he was
trying to protect his family and survive. That's all inherent
in the structure of HG Wells' story. That's also what is also
unique about a movie like this is that it's not designed to
be just a special FX film, it's really much more about the
humanity and people in the story and the FX is in many ways
this gigantic backdrop. But the story that's compelling is
watching what is happening to this family.
How have you seen
that Steven has changed from ET to people being killed by aliens?
Kennedy: I don't know if that's to suggest that Steven has changed.
This is a movie that he knew about a story that he knew about
from when he was in college. So before he even became a filmmaker
this sort of was the epitomized as the best sci-fi story out
there. So that's what draws him to this. Does the world today
impact the way he might be think about this story? Yeah I think
it probably does. ET was ground in a kind of innocence that
doesn't necessarily exist as it did then today. Steven is still
an everyman making movies. I think that he views the world
in much the way we all do, he has the unique ability to translate
that into storytelling and to big mass appeal movies. I think
that the heart of his filmmaking and heart of his storytelling
he is always influenced by the subtext of what's going on in
the world.
You just spoke about
all the things that make Wells story relevant after 107 years.
What do you guys bring to the table to make this similarly
ageless 107 years from now?
Kennedy: I think that what we're doing is trying to ground it in what's
familiar right now. I know that one of the images that Steven
was particularly attracted to was that for instance there has
never really been an attack on American soil. There's never
been a war certainly this generation can relate to- seeing
refugees and people displaced is imagery that we're not familiar
with in this country and he's going right at the heart of that
and trying to take a lot of the imagery that were seeing today
in the world and applying it to this story- and granted a big
fun scary movie. But at the heart of it, it's grounded in the
reality of that familiar imagery and hopefully you'll come
away from this movie scared and feeling like you saw a big
summer movie but at the same time making you think. I think
that's how he's been so successful as a filmmaker, being able
to do something that isn't just empty entertainment but it
actually has substance to it.
Do you guys use the
black smoke from the novel?
Kennedy: We didn't really stress that as an element, the tri-pods the
red weed- that's been the predominate iconic imagery. We're
going with the red weed...
Practical and CG or
all CG?
Kennedy: It's predominately CG. CG is getting so good today that the
argument we made years ago what we did in 'Jurassic' is we
build a lot of things for reference, lighting reference, that
kind of thing- but its just not practical financially anymore
to try and do both anymore.
Same for the weaponry?
Kennedy: No, were trying to build as much as we can. It's mainly the
tri-pods that are CG.
What about the Super
Bowl ad, where the bridge explodes, will something be added
later on?
Kennedy: Well I don't know (laugh). We are trying to be very true to
the story. We are trying to do it in a very realistic way if
that makes sense.
How important was
it for you to get someone from the '53 movie? You already have
Ann Robinson?
Kennedy: Gene Barry is in this too. We thought it was important to have
an [homage] of the original. The interesting thing is that
this movie is in no way trying to be a remake of the '50s movie
it really is much more inspired by the HG Wells. We thought
for the moviegoers what was just a nice homage within our movie.
They don't have a huge role, but they'll be obvious.
You destroying Los
Angeles City Hall?
Kennedy: No it's all East coast.
Will you be destroying
your writer?
Kennedy: No we tried to talk David into a scene where he gets taken
by a tentacle- but no [laughs].
Are these aliens recognizable
as aliens or are they reinvented in a way we've never seen
before?
Kennedy: I think they've been reinvented, but they're still inherently
inspired by what Wells describes.
Well he had octopuses?
Kennedy: No they're not octopuses.
Are they Martians?
Kennedy: No they're not Martians. The feeling was that we know so much
about Mars now that doesn't really fall into the realm of realistic
expectations.
How realistic is this?
Kennedy: It's always interesting when you try to arrive an attention
and POV and try and get everybody on the same page visually
that's going to make the movie. We talked a lot about 'Private
Ryan' and for instance the reality of Private Ryan, the feeling
of being the mist of a real event. Essentially we're bringing
the fantasy element of aliens but were grounding it in a very
realistic theory. It has a look, I have to say, this movie
looks like nothing you've ever seen. The combination of the
two is quite interesting. It really does have that kind of
realistic feeling of 'Private Ryan.' It's not going to look
like 'Ryan' it has its own look, but we are trying to do a
lot of things to give it a very visceral feeling.
You said that CG has
come a long way, and 400 FX shots in that amount of time, is
ILM working a massive shift?
Kennedy: We actually organized the schedule so that the bulk of their
work was up front so that we turned over almost 125 shots before
X-mas... We haven't eliminated green screen, but augmenting
things is much easier now and looks much more realistic. Again
it still goes to that it's still art and you have to have people
who are really talented at recognizing how the movie is going
to look and matching lighting and coming up with really clever
ideas, it's like anything- not everybody can create FX shots.
What's going on with
Talisman? Is there a director attached?
Kennedy: I wish there was. Well eventually get around to doing that.
We love that story.
How Long?
Kennedy: We couldn't speculate because its all about finding the right
person.
How about Indiana
Jones 4?
Kennedy: We're going to see a script in about a month.
Who's the screenwriter?
Kennedy: Jeff Nathanson
Will Sean Connery
be back?
Kennedy: Until I read the script I won't really know.
What is it like watching
Tom and Steve together?
Kennedy: They're great. They haven't gone through the Minority Report
experience. There's a real seamlessness to how they approach
everything and they have such phenomenal trust both ways that
they love working together and everything is a collaborative
experience.
Tom has great ideas;
they bounce things off one and another- every scene just gets
better. They're quite something to watch, Steven described
something the other day that I hadn't thought about it quite
this way but he's absolutely right, which is we sit around
in this kind of hurry up and wait scenario and a lot of levity
and we all have a lot of fun and laugh a lot, and then the
minute we start to zero on what the scene is we're about to
shoot, everyone gets extremely serious and extremely intense
for that moment that is captured on film- and then is totally
relaxed again.
That's the beauty
of watching Steven and Tom- that razor sharp intensity on every
little detail on what's going on in that moment that we're
trying to capture it pretty amazing. They don't let anything
fall through the cracks and everything's discussed and everything's
thought through and anticipated. Were always very very clear
as to exactly where we are going with the storytelling. That's
rare with an actor where it's not just about their performance
but it's a constant discussion about the whole movie.
What's the status
on Benjamin Button. Is it dead?
Kennedy: No, Fincher. I was just on the phone with everybody today on
that. It looks like it may go forward this summer.
So it remains to be
seen whether or not the humans win in this new science fiction
spectacular. But one thing may be certain, this summer, the
war of the box office may belong to Steven Spielberg.
WAR OF THE WORLDS INVADES THEATERS
JUNE 29TH!
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