
You must be doing
something right in Hollywood to get a star on the Walk of Fame.
Antonio Banderas is doing just that; just last week, the Spaniard
was honored with the accolade.
And what good timing
– Antonio’s big screen return to Zorro comes to
theaters this Friday, October 28th with The
Legend of Zorro. It’s been seven years
(1998) since The Mask of Zorro.
Of course, Latino
Review was the first source to report the return of Antonio
to the masked hero back when I spoke to him for Once
Upon A Time In Mexico (2003). Antonio is teaming
up again with Catherine Zeta-Jones and director Martin Campbell
for this one, but it’s not just the two veteran actors
doing the brunt work; their ten year old son, Joaquin, is getting
into the mix as well.
Antonio talked
to Latino Review about The
Legend of Zorro. Here’s what he had to
say:
So
Antonio its been 7 seven years since The Mask of Zorro, did
you pull your “Zorro” sword out of mothballs?
Antonio
Banderas: Yeah. I didn't practice the very much for
seven years in the middle. I didn't have an intruder in the
house or anything like that. But what we did basically for the
second part is just to refresh everything that we learned from
the first time. Somehow, sword fighting or fencing in general
is like riding bicycles. Once you know you never forget, but
there's new choreography. But it's like a dance. That's what
it is, with an edge. The edge is very dangerous when you're
carrying a real sword in your hands. So once in a while it's
potentially dangerous.
What was it like putting
the mask and the cape on again after 7 years?
Antonio
Banderas: It was more painful this time [Laughs]. Supposedly
because I'm 45 now and every time that I crash somewhere the
bones start telling you you’re 45. But it was way harder
than the first one, way harder. I suppose it’s not only
because I’m 7 years older, but it's just because it that
aspect a little bit harder.
Would you have preferred
that the movie be done sooner than seven years?
Antonio
Banderas: There's a moment that you have a feeling
that the movies don't belong to you anymore. They belong to
the audiences and movies like this are the audience who decided
at the end if there's going to be a sequel or not. I suppose
what happened is that after seven years demanded 'Zorro' very
much. They sold DVD's and videos, more than they expected. For
me it was important more than to do one right after the first
one, immediately after which is sometimes kind of cheesy because
is what you're doing basically is a movie with a less budget,
and trying to use the heat of the first one in an attempt to
make more money. But that's not the style of Steven Spielberg
or the people who were involved in the movie. They wanted to
do a second movie with at least the same perimeters of quality
that we used when we did the first one. So it was important
to find the right script and the right people, and the right
people is basically the people who made the first one. Not only
is it about the people are in front of the camera, but also
everybody behind the camera- the same cinematographer, the same
art director, the same costume designer. So it was kind of a
family thing. With the script, on one hand we have a form on
how the script is made. I think that we were very keen to do
something that remembered the way that these types of movies,
western movies were done in the '40's and in the 50's and not
using so much computer animation and technology and stuff like
that. We do have some of that with the train obviously, but
the technologies we use are almost like transparency that we're
made in the 50's and 60's, not with such a perfection thing
in the way that they do things now. We wanted that kind of flavor,
which I think ads value to the movie in a world surrounded by
new technologies and stuff like that. And in the other hand
it's something that is very contemporary which is just putting
Zorro in a position that he's not supposed to be. He's a man
who's having problems with his family. He's got a quite dysfunctional
family at the point where we start the movie. He doesn't have
communication with his son, neither with his wife. He just blames
a little bit too much. He probably blames more himself than
the people, and then what happens there is that once we got
into that type of crisis, that specifically allows me to go
to the side of Zorro that I like, which is the common side.
I can make the character, in different pieces I can make him
jealous and make him drunk and just have him in those positions
that Zorro shouldn't be and then just take all these pieces
and put them together to be what everybody is expecting.
Is this film sort of toned
down from the first one in order to make it PG? What do you
think of that?
Antonio
Banderas: I really don't understand about those qualifications
for movies. We were very specific about the fact that Zorro
shouldn’t kill directly anybody. There are obviously two
deaths in the movie, the two bad guys. Almost accidentally the
first one, with the character McGivens and then the second one,
yes, he set the guy up so he's going to crush at the end of
the trail, but he's not directly killing him with his own hands
or with the sword. And then we were very keen not to show any
kind of blood in the movie or Zorro stabbing anybody, which
in the first (movie) happens. In the first one I can remember
killing the Captain Love at the end of the movie with the sword,
but this time with Steven and Martin Campbell and everyone on
the movie, they were very careful with that type of thing.
Do
you think that loses a little bit of what “Zorro”
is though?
Antonio
Banderas: I don't think so. We have I think also that
this movie…I mean it’s going to be seen by kids
too. And I think it's important the fact that its not so bloody
in a way.
You are Zorro basically.
But was there ever an issue like with Pierce Brosnan and James
Bond where you’re asking for too much money and getting
too old, that there was a possibility of the part going to someone
else?
Antonio
Banderas: It might happen now [Laughs]. It may happen
that this was the last time that I put the mask on. But I don’t
know, its going to depend on the audience again as I said to
you in the beginning.
But there was never any
question of you not doing this one?
Antonio
Banderas: It may have happened at the studio, but I
don't know. I don't know if there was a debate among them, the
studio people, about the possibility of using another actor
to play the character or not. What I know is that from like
two or three years ago the contact that I have had with Walter
Parkes (Producer) and the people who were involved in the movie,
the Columbia people, they said to me that we are sending me
scripts for your approval and that we were going to do go on
this date and then it was postponed. So I suppose that they
were counting on me from the beginning when they just considered
the project, the second movie in their heads. But I don't know
more than that.
And you’re doing another
character sequel with Puss ‘n Boots for “Shrek III”
right?
Antonio
Banderas: We just started doing that, recording that.
Do you have a lot of fun
doing that?
Antonio
Banderas: Yes, because it's totally different than
what I thought it was going to be. For an actor like me that
I arrived to this country sixteen years ago without speaking
the language, and the fact that they called me just to use my
voice has kind of made me proud somehow. But it's a method that
was very unusual from what I thought animation movies would
be. Basically what we do is just improvise. The voice goes first
and we improvise what we have as an excuse, it's called a script,
but it's an excuse to start going somewhere. They go away after
we do the first session and then they come back of months later
and they show you the first stages of animation and then they
ask you what you think about where the character should go which
is very unusual for an animation movie. Then we just debate
about that, and we jump into ideas that come out of the conversation.
So it's a totally different way, and I know it’s a totally
different way because my wife did a little bird in 'Stuart Little
II' and it was totally different from this. She said to me that
it was almost like working in publicity. You had to repeat the
line eighty times until they said to you, 'We have it.' She
said it was kind of different the way that 'Shrek' is done and
probably one of the reasons for its success.
Does
you daughter like your character of Puss ‘N Boots?
Antonio
Banderas: You bet, man.
Is your daughter more impressed
with Zorro or with Puss ‘N Boots?
Antonio
Banderas: Definitely with Puss 'N Boots, but the thing
is that when we're watching 'Zorro,' and I didn't allow her
to watch that until very little time ago, and when she saw it
she was basically elbowing me the whole entire movie going,
'Is that you, papi?' Every time that she sees a stunt she asks
me that and of course my answer is yes [Laughs] even if it's
not true.
There was talk of a “Puss
‘n Boots” movie. Where’s that at?
Antonio
Banderas: So far we're going to do it. It seems like
it's going to happen. I suppose that also it’s going to
be…counting in how 'Shrek III' is going to make and if
the character continues being appealing to the audiences. But
yeah, I've had this conversation with Jeffrey Katzenberg. He's
going for it. They're writing a script and they're talking with
directors already, and it'll be great to see what happens.
So what have you learned
in the last 16 years in your film career?
Antonio
Banderas: What I have learned is just so vast. There
are so many things that have happened in my life – my
life, my professional life, my personal life. From directing
my first movie to going to Broadway for 'Rosalita.' I guess
that I became a kind of very eclectic character actor. I've
done everything in this profession. I've done horror movies
like 'Interview With a Vampire.' Musicals like 'Evita.' I went
to Broadway and directed a movie. Many things. It's true though
that sometimes thinking about it all gives you a type of vertigo
that it's been sixteen years since I stepped into this country
and started doing movies here. It's been very interesting. Interesting
is not a good word nowadays, but it has been interesting [Laughs].
And it’s not over
yet, right?
Antonio
Banderas: No. I don't think that it's over. No. I keep
going and working. No. No. I feel better than ever actually.
Then why go back to Spain
to direct a movie?
Antonio
Banderas: Because I need it. Because I've been out
of the Spanish cinematography for a while and it's almost like
a duty for me to do this. I can't feel very good about my persona
just working in America all the time, and not giving anything
to the Spanish cinematography. So I just decided to put a production
company together and I'm just right now starting to shoot a
movie on the 21st of November. It doesn't have anything to do
with the movies that I've done here. It's harder, darker, more
sexual than movies that I have done here.
Are you going to star in
it as well as direct it?
Antonio
Banderas: No. I don't feel prepared to direct myself.
Spanish actors?
Antonio
Banderas: Spanish actors. Spanish production. Everything
will be Spanish.
Looking back, what do you
think the impact of ‘Imagining Argentina’ was?
Antonio
Banderas: 'Imagining Argentina' was a project that
failed totally to the expectations that we had. I suppose that
the fact that we put together a social political movie based
on reality, and a thriller. It wasn't very appealing for critics
and for audiences. I have to recognize that but if someone said
to me would you do it again? I would say yes even with the same
mistakes. I went there for a specific cause and I would do it
again. That's the way things are. Sometimes it might happen
that a movie hits the people the in the way that you want it
to and sometimes not, but that's the story of this profession.
There is the greatness and the misery of being an actor, or
just try to tell stories. That's just the way it is.
Speaking of Spanish films,
any plans on reuniting with director Pedro Almodóvar?
Antonio
Banderas: Yes. Three years ago he approached me at
Cannes Film Festival, he said well Antonio we have been 15 years
now without working together and its time to go back. So he
proposed to me the possibility of doing a movie based on a French
book called “Tarantula”, very strong story, very
Almodóvar story and I said absolutely yes. The last times
that I’ve been talking with him, he got problems putting
the script together, its complex and I suppose that if someday
the story is ready to be done, he’s going to come for
me and I’ll be here, I will clean my schedule to work
with him again. But it doesn’t happen then I will continue
to do my own stuff.
Is “Take the Lead”
a musical comedy or a musical drama?
Antonio
Banderas: It's not musical. It's a story based on a
real character called Pierre Dulaine. He is still alive. He's
was the world champion of ballroom dancing and when he retired
he put together a school in Bronx, New York. Right in front
of the public school when it had all the problems with drugs
and all the problems that public schools have in our days in
America. So he decided just to go there and talk to the principal
and propose to the principal the possibility of involving the
kids in dancing and it was pretty successful. They now have
a thousand kids on the East Coast dancing in the program. They've
had some help from the government and different institutions,
and it's proved to be something for interesting for kids to
do. Obviously in the beginning the reaction was totally against
him. 'What the heck are you talking about?' This was in the
projects and people weren't interested in dance or anything
like that, but he proves them wrong, all the people who wanted
these guys to step back from this.
Do you get to dance a lot?
Antonio
Banderas: Not a lot. I'm supposed to be retired [Laughs].
But I dance a tango in the movie just to show off in front of
the kids so that they really know what I'm talking about and
I'm doing a bit of a waltz, but the kids do and they dance great
actually.
It sounds like
you’ve got a full plate with work. What happens with you
away from work? Anything fun and exciting – travel plans,
holiday plans?
Antonio
Banderas: Holiday is impossible right now. Impossible.
I'm not in a holiday mood. Right now I'm in a working mood and
right after I finish that movie I'm going to come here and do
a movie in America. I don't know what I'm going to pick, but
I have several projects on the table, and then I plan to go
back to Broadway.
Another
revival or a new musical?
Antonio
Banderas: It's a new musical, but it's something that
you know. It's based on a movie that we all know. I don't have
all the cards in my hands, and I don't want to jump and tell
you what it is just in case of the possibility of it not happening
with the rights and stuff like that and a variety of situations,
but the plan is to make it with the same director as 'Nine.'
'Don Juan DeMarco' the musical.
The Johnny Depp
movie?
Antonio
Banderas: The Johnny Depp movie. Yeah. We're trying
to use the Michael Kamen music, but now he's dead unfortunately
and Bryan Adams wrote some things also. We had a beautiful experience
doing 'Nine.' I know the risks of going to Broadway, but this
profession is a risk in anyway.
Next year?
Antonio
Banderas: I don't know. I have to make my movie. I'm
going to finish shooting at the beginning of March. That'll
probably go to some festivals, the movie and I'll have to go
to those. I don't know what's going to happen with the movie.
There were rumors that “Nine”
was going to be made into a movie?
Antonio
Banderas: That is a possibility. Yes.
You would do it?
Antonio
Banderas: I would.
You’ve talked about
your age a couple of times already. How is it in America with
all the actors being 20? As the sexiest man alive at one time
where does being 45 fit into all of that?
Antonio
Banderas: I would be very worried if I was a woman.
I don't know if that answers the question.
Your wife is that age. Are
you worried for her?
Antonio
Banderas: She hasn't worked at the studios in a long
time. As many actresses as there are, and I mean amazing actresses,
they're not working. I don't know if I should say names, but
like Jessica Lange and Michelle Pfeiffer – people that
are amazing actresses and the studios are not calling them anymore.
It's like a fresh, fresh thing that goes on here especially
with woman. With the men it's a totally different thing. It's
funny, right after the first 'Zorro,' Catherine Zeta Jones did
a movie with Sean Connery and they were a couple in the movie
and it was accepted.
What, the 50-year age difference?
Antonio
Banderas: But if you do that in the opposite direction
– there's that restriction with age. It just depends.
But for a woman it's kind of cruel actually, because it doesn't
happen like that all over the world.
And in Spain it’s
different?
Antonio
Banderas: It is. It is.
What
about being upstaged in this movie by your horse?
Antonio
Banderas: [Laughs] No problem. Actually, that horse
is nine horses, and I trained with all of them because each
one them has a different skill. You have the horses that jump.
You have horses that run very fast. You have horses that come
around a corner good. One that rears. Whatever. So you have
to start a relationship with all of them especially because
in the movie’s time is very important because time means
money and they don't want to lose money. And when the horses
start getting a little bit funny everyone gets very nervous.
So I try to be as acquainted with the horses as I could, as
I did with the sword and fighting too.
Who do you play in “Bordertown”
with Jennifer Lopez?
Antonio
Banderas: I play a Mexican journalist.
And she’s an American
journalist?
Antonio
Banderas: She's also a Spanish journalist, but she
doesn't want to play Spanish, which is something that I've seen
sometimes in this country. She wants to be an American and she
goes blonde and all of this stuff, and at the end of the movie
she has to recognize her origins. It's a movie made with very
little money a little bit in the same way that we did 'Imagining
Argentina.' 'Here we go again.' We might have a movie that is
a failure, but we did it all for a cause that we thought was
important. It's been almost three and a half years of my life
in Mexico. I've shot seven movies there. I'm conscious of their
social and political situations that they have sometimes and
it was important for me to not only do movies like this which
I'm very proud of, it's pure entertainment, but I want to do
some movies that sometimes might make people reflect about problems
that are probably too close to us and too far away from our
minds at times.
What happens with Puss ‘n
Boots in “Shrek III”?
Antonio
Banderas: We're recording as I said before. We're doing
that right now, and as I told you before we do it in pieces
and it might take a year, a year and a half to just put together
the whole entire thing, but we're in that process right now.
What do you like more, being
Zorro or El Mariachi?
Antonio
Banderas: Oh, they're different. I can't make a choice
because El Mariachi is a more tormented character. He's in pain
all the time. Zorro is a more joyful character, more positive.
THE LEGEND OF ZORRO Hits Theatres Oct
28th