
Martin Campbell
knows how to entertain an audience when he steps behind the
camera. Seven years ago when he directed THE MASK OF ZORRO,
the film earned Academy Award and Golden Globe nominations
and launched the international careers of Antonio Banderas
and Catherine Zeta-Jones. He also rejuvenated the James Bond
franchise when he directed GOLDENEYE, Pierce Brosnan's first
outing as the famed British spy and he is at it again with
the announcement of the new James Bond now being played by
Daniel Craig. Campbell will again direct the next Bond feature,
CASINO ROYALE. I had the opportunity to talk to Martin Campbell
EXCLUSIVELY 1:1 while in LA promoting the sequel THE
LEGEND OF ZORRO. Here is what Martin Campbell
had to say to us:
Latino Review:
So how did The Legend of Zorro came about and why did it
take so long?
Martin
Campbell:
Well first of all I think it was about 3 or 4 years we didn't
discuss it all after the first film and then for the about
the last 3 years we talked about it and then the problem
was getting the script together that actually...to be
honest we can make as good as the first one, that was the problem, was to find
a story that we all were to sign off on that we can make as good as the first
one otherwise there was no point in making it. Finally we got one, Alex
Kurtzman & Roberto Orci wrote it and we all loved it and that's why we did
it.
Latino Review:
Were there any challenges in creating the new adventure like
keeping the true identity a secret from Zorro son?
Martin
Campbell: Yeah well there
were a lot of challenges in the sense of the way the script
was structured. Is to whether...when Catherine splits
from Antonio or should I say Elena splits from Alejandro
and as to precisely what she was up to, like is she involved
with Armand (Rufus Sewell)? Isn't she involved with Armand?
Is she being she being blacked mailed? What's going on? So
we had to keep that story suspended for a while. And
also Zorro and his son. Of course the boy not knowing
the identity of his father, there is a lovely scene at the
end were of course he sees and finds out who his father is.
All of that stuff was tricking, to keep all those balls in
the air.
Latino Review:
From your previous films was this film more complex? Action
wise that is?
Martin
Campbell: Yeah it was because; there is quite
a lot action in it. There is a big
action scene at the end of the piece obviously, as there always is in these
sorts of movies and that involves a train, and the horse and sword fighting
and the train going out of control, people panicking and all that stuff so that
was tricking to do.
Latino Review:
How much of the stunts did Antonio Bandreas actually do?
Martin
Campbell: Well
he did all the sword fighting. I never doubled him
for the sword fighting simply because he's the best person
to do it. There's
no stuntman that can match him, he's so good at doing it.
Obviously on things like acrobatics I cant allow him to
do it because...I'm
sure he would if asked him to do it but it's too dangerous.
He only needs to twist an ankle and the whole production
stops. Be he did a considerable of amount of them, absolutely.
Latino Review:
Are you concerned at all with the film getting a PG rating,
seems that you didn't want to show any violence like Zorro
killing in the first film, which got a PG-13 rating.
Martin
Campbell: Well he never does,
as a character in the first one the only person he killed
was Captain Love and one of the characteristics of Zorro
is that he never directly kills anybody, they will fall
on their swords, they fall off buildings, they get run
over by their own horses or they fall off a train but he
never sort of directly kills anybody, he humiliates his enemies
but he never actually directly kills them. And the ideal
of the PG is that it's a big entertaining film that anybody
can go to, that's the great thing. Have a great night
out and I hope it's entertaining
Latino Review:
And it also seemed that the character Zorro was a bit darker
on this film than the first.
Martin
Campbell: His character is a little darker cause...
Latino Review:
He doesn't pay any attention to his family and focuses more
on himself...
Martin
Campbell: Right, he doesn't pay
attention to his family. It has a lot kind of contemporary
echoes because you've got your family on the one hand,
he promises to give up work in his case he promises that
he's going to hang up the cape and mask and when the time
comes he can't do it. And he can't do both jobs at once,
look after his own family and look after the wider family,
which is the people of California; I mean something has
to give. You have to compromise somewhere down the line
and that's precisely the dilemma he's in.
And while he's
Zorro he tends to neglect his son and there are times were
he's very angry and he's very depressed...
Latino Review:
That scene were he is angry and storms in the church to argue
with...
Martin
Campbell: Absolutely where he's in despair, one of his best friends dies and gets very
upset about it because he believes that he is just not capable of handling it.
There is a lot elements, there's also some funny elements
too, where he gets drunk at the party, he gets jealous all
that stuff, very Latin. (Laughs)
Latino Review:
On my way to LA, I got to watch one of my first Zorro films
starring the French actor Alain Delon, I haven't seen the
other Zorro films from the 20's or 40's, but are there any
elements that you try to bring to Antonio's character as
Zorro?
Martin
Campbell: That film (Zorro 1975)
is actually fun isn't it. I've got a copy of that myself
actually. Well if you look at the silent movies the two
done by Douglas Fairbanks they are the best Zorro's of
all because even thought they are silent and rather crudely
shot because they were shot in the 1920's. It has the spirit
and the character of Zorro he has it done wonderfully well
and Fairbanks did do all of his stunts that was one of
his big things. And he's got the humor;
he humiliates his enemies, there very funny. The silent ones
say a lot about Zorro's character.
Latino Review:
So is this you're new habit of yours? Breaking in the new
Bond?
Martin
Campbell: (Laughs) Well the reason I'm doing Bond is because it's the first book, Casino
Royale is the first book...
Latino Review:
I've read the novel and I wanted to ask you...
Martin
Campbell: I bet there's a scene in you want to talk about.
Latino Review:
What? The genitals being cutting off.
Martin
Campbell: (Laughs) That's going
to be a tough one. I think I'll do it in close up. (Laughs)
I think there will a lot of woman that will love that scene.
But what's interesting about this is Bond when he's starting
out. He's just got his 00's stripes and he's not the perfect
Bond at all. I mean he makes mistakes, he's a little raw,
he's a little arrogant, he's a bit of a loose cannon, but
by the end of the movie of course he becomes the perfect
machine Bond that we know.
Latino Review:
Do you think the Bourne films have an affect or are going
to affect the James Bond films?
Martin
Campbell: I don't think so. The truth about the Bourne films, which I love by the way
and I think Matt Damon is fantastic in them, but that's a man who is hunted
by his past, someone who can't remember his past, he's always on the run and
is a very serious kind of...he's just focused on trying to find he's past.
Where as Bond
I think has a lot of elements. He has a sense of humor, he's
a great womanizer, he's very attractive, he's a great poker
player or card player, he's a gambler. He's all of
those things plus he's deadly. So he has all those elements,
now that's something Bourne doesn't have.
Latino Review:
Yeah but he (Bourne) is deadly.
Martin
Campbell: (Laughs) Yeah he is deadly. That's precisely what he is. But that's all
he is in the sense of...a hunted man whose...
Latino Review:
Like in this new Bond (film) and in the book Casino Royale,
there are no gadgets.
Martin
Campbell: No there is no gadgets.
Latino Review:
And Bourne doesn't use gadgets.
Martin
Campbell: No he doesn't, what he uses is his
head. And you're probably right about Bourne and Bond to
a certain extent. But Bond will make mistakes these guys
aren't perfect when they start off.
Latino Review:
Is the film going to be more of an adult prospect type of
film?
Martin
Campbell: No it will be a PG 13. The way the violence
is done and everything else there is no point in doing Bond
if it was going to be anything more than a PG 13 because its
not...I don't the audience is...I think the major audience for
Bond that has to be added is kids. I think kids have to go and
see it.
Latino Review:
Now you're going in a different direction with this new Bond,
no smoking, no gadgets. What direction do you want
to go with this Bond?
Martin
Campbell: Connery never smoked, did he?
Latin Review:
In Dr No he did.
Martin
Campbell: In Dr No, that's true. He certainly wont smoke in this film because I
think it would be irresponsible. I think kids see this stuff and then they go
to the toilet to have a quick cigarette. I think morally that's wrong
regardless if the character smokes or not. I mean in the book he smokes
70 a day, it's amazing. And he drinks quiet heavily too. The book is
so old fashioned but it's very interesting and again the violence I've got to
be careful of because of the kids who are going to want to see this movie.
Latino Review:
Do you think you can duplicate the success of Pierce Brosnan
with Daniel Craig?
Martin
Campbell: Well I hope so. The truth is that I
think with the style of movie that Pierce, he's last one
for example I think with the gadgets, the invincible car
the huge sort of ice palaces, the kind of water skiing off or should I say snow
boarding...I mean I just thought it got preposterous and then finally the 747
going down in a massive amount flames that goes on forever. I think they
got to a point where you couldn't go any more than that. It was getting
to ridiculous.
Latino Review:
Why is Daniel Craig the best choice to play Bond?
Martin
Campbell: Because first of all he's a terrific actor, and I think it's
on Casino Royale were Fleming always said he looked like Hoagy Carmichael, which
is a very interesting and he is a very interesting looking guy and I think he
has all the attributes to make a much grittier and tougher Bond.
Latino Review:
How close is the film going to mirror the book?
Martin
Campbell: The second half of the book is very close.
The first half isn't and when you read you'll understand why.
It's because it's set in the Cold War and the organizations
the Russian secret service they have a man in France who they
send money to in order to disrupt the union, its very much about
the Cold War. It was written in 1953 so obviously that's changed
because there is no Cold War. But the rest is going to be pretty
much intact, The whole game takes place; Le Chiffre is the bad
guy, your genital whacking scene that all remains, so the last
two thirds of the movie will be like the book. And then Bond
will fall in love with Vesper Lynd as he does in the book. This
is the last book that they are filming because they have done
all of them.
Latino Review:
How much leeway do you have in this film? And how much involvement
is the Broccoli family in it?
Martin
Campbell: Well they're
(Broccoli) great actually. I did GoldenEye and
they pretty much gave me my head on that we all incorporated
on the script, we all liked the script. This time we definitely
wanted to go back to more realistic Bond. More like From
Russia With Love, more kind of creditable if you
will and that's the directive and that's why we've cast Daniel
Craig. I think it definitely needs a change in direction.
Latino Review:
There were a lot of rumors on who was going to play Bond
and what not. Who actually was in contention for the
role?
Martin
Campbell: We had that very
young chap named Henry Cavill who was really good but I think
at the end he was too young, he's 22. But Henry believe
me he is going to be a big talent, very good looking, very
strong physically and a good actor but he's too young for
this Bond basically that was it. When he gets a little more
acting experience under his belt he'll be terrific.
Latino Review:
Was he the only on in the running for the role?
Martin
Campbell: He was the only
serious one in the running, yeah.
Latino Review:
Cause there were rumors of Hugh Jackman turning down the
role and Eric Bana and so on.
Martin
Campbell: Well Hugh Jackman
and Eric Bana were never approached. Those were just all
rumors.
Latino Review:
So was Clive Owen ever approached?
Martin
Campbell: No he was never
approached, I mean the press talks about but I don't remember
ever having a conversation about Clive Owen or the other
names you mentioned.
Latino Review:
Now the novel there is now Moneypenny or Q, will they still
be in the film.
Martin
Campbell: Well there's
no Moneypenny or Q in this film.
Latino Review:
Will M be a female or Male?
Martin
Campbell: I'm not telling
you. (Laughs)