The Skeleton Key
An Interview with Peter Sarsgard
Peter Sarsgard
is turning out to be the next big thing. I said it way back
when I talked to him for Shattered
Glass, and he continues to prove his worth
in talent. Since then, he’s captivated us with Kinsey,
and stole our hearts with Garden State. In The
Skeleton Key, Sarsgard once again exudes confidence,
and precision in the way he presents you with his art. I had
the privilege of talking to Peter about The
Skeleton Key, Jarhead, and why Hollywood doesn’t
think he’s funny.
Latino
Review: Is that partly why you wanted to the movie, because
of the New Orleans theme?
Peter Sarsgard: I really wanted to do the movie
because the character I'm playing is sort of an interesting
reverse-double somersault with a half-twist pike. I was interested
to see how I would do it. I didn't know how I would do it, so
I was just sort of like, "Oh, this will be interesting."
Latino
Review: How were you prepared to do that? What were the challenges?
Peter Sarsgard:
With this role, I started to think about whom this guy's heroes
might be, or who the heroes would be that I could get away with
having. And I started thinking about Sun Studios, like Carl
Perkins and Elvis Presley and stuff like that, people who sort
of took Blues music and made it popular. I've got a little Carl
Perkins hairdo in the movie, and I got a drum kit in my apartment.
I started thinking, "This guy's like a bassist." Keeping
the band tight and together and not taking any credit, but he
knows he's the true rock star in the band. I thought of him
being like a session player from there or something like that.
But obviously he's an estate lawyer in New Orleans and all that
stuff. I think he thinks of himself as a rock star.
Latino
Review: Do you envy an actor like Johnny Depp, who's reached
the point in his career where he can approach a role with a
specific manic idea of how to interpret
it?
Peter Sarsgard:
I really admire his work. I really think he's found a way to
be both commercial and good at the same time. He's sort of invented
his own style of acting. Someone once told me he based his character
in that movie Sleepy Hollow off of a 14-year-old little girl,
and I thought, "Of course you did." (Laughter) I think
what he does is really cool. I mean actually, Willie Wonka,
to me looks like it's based off of like Andy Warhol or something
like that. Imagine Andy Warhol taking kids on a tour. He just
seems like has a good time with it. And it doesn't seem like
it's precious to him. But you know, I don't feel like I'm the
same kind of actor that he is. And I feel like...I don't know
if I would do that kind of thing well. But it's not what comes
naturally.
Latino
Review: How do you choose your projects?
Peter Sarsgard:
It depends on what's going on with me at the time. I pick different
roles for different reasons, just like any job. Sometimes I
decide to be in a movie because I think the movie is going to
be a socially important movie. Shattered Glass, I think, was
that way for me. Regardless of what you think of Shattered Glass,
I think the message is still relevant. One of the most fundamental
parts of a democracy that we keep forgetting about is the media,
because without information you can't decide how to vote. And
if you ain't got the facts, then how do you know whether to
vote for this guy or that guy? Then the whole thing falls apart.
That's why I did that movie, because that this story, which
on the surface is about this guy who makes up articles, is really
about that idea. And that's an idea I feel very strongly about.
And sometimes I just go, in a more whimsical way, "Oh,
this might be fun." Or sometimes I go, "I want to
work with this person," or this person's in it or this
person wrote it...all different reasons.
Latino
Review: You’ve got another thriller coming up, Flight
Plan. Is it a similar sort of task for you?
Peter Sarsgard:
That one is less so, I think with that one, it would
be very difficult for me to explain it or give it away, because
there's no single thing in it that is the giveaway. It's a movie
that constantly changes. I would have to sit down with you for
like half an hour to explain what's happening.
Latino
Review: Who do you play in Flight Plan?
Peter Sarsgard:
I play an Air Marshall. And Jodie Foster thinks she got onto
the plane with her daughter. Her husband has just died. She
takes two sleeping pills, falls asleep. Wakes up, her daughter's
gone. She really believes she had her daughter is on the plane.
And I play the Air Marshall who is trying to determine whether
or not she's a woman who is going nuts on an airplane because
her husband just died, or if she really did have a daughter
on the plane. So it's like another little bit of an investigator
part.
Latino
Review: There's a nice buzz surrounding Jarhead. What can we
expect from it?
Peter Sarsgard:
Jarhead - people keep asking me if it's an anti-war movie, and
I'm like, name one good pro-war movie. (Laughter) I want to
see that.
Latino
Review: The Green Berets?
Peter Sarsgard:
But the Green Berets...I watched that recently and John Wayne
takes an M-16 and smacks it against a tree and breaks it in
half. So the Green Berets are about that level of reality. Because
if you ever held an M-16, you know the tree is going to break
before the M-16 does. (Laughter) And he's just like, "Damn."
So our movie, in contrast, is like...instead of deciding whether
or not this war or that war is wrong or ok, it's more like,
all right, here's a job that is the hardest job on the planet.
You've got to learn to kill people in a way that is with discipline
and is professional and not personal. And that is the nature
of being a warrior. There's no other way to do it. You can argue
whether or not there should ever be a war, but certainly most
people would way World War II was justified. This is a job that
people do. And it has the hardest training, period. Everybody
knows about boot camp. The reason they do that is both to prepare
you in your body and your mind. And then when you get there,
you're ready to do this thing. That's why they talk the way
they talk, because you don't want to be like, "So, I'm
going to go over there and pop that guy in the ass, and I'll
be back in a minute." You go, "Yes, sir. I'm going
to do the thing." It's a mission. You do it professionally
and you do it exactly and you shoot 'em through the head. But
what happens when you get over there and you're not fighting?
And you're sitting there in the desert and you gotta clean the
shitter and then you gotta clean the humvee and you've been
there for a couple of months and you're missing your girlfriend
and stuff and you've gone through this training where you're
ready to kill and you're not killing and you might have to kill
tomorrow or they might drop chemical...what happens to your
mind? And so it's really a movie that I think honors marines
by showing how difficult it is to be a marine. So I think that
that's kind of the genius part of the movie. Usually people
when they go to make movies like this, it's partisan. To me,
that's not a partisan thing. That's like, everybody, if those
guys are going over there, you can get behind the idea that
they gotta do it well, and you can understand when they start
fucking up, I think, in this movie, because it is...maybe working
on an oil rig is number two, but this is number one.
Latino
Review: How much training did you have to do?
Peter Sarsgard:
Boot camp was not that long, but I'd say actually doing the
movie was the hard part. We shot what's called French Hours,
which means we didn't stop for lunch. We shot hand-held, so
you just go on to the next scene and they start filming it.
There's no go-back-to-your-trailer time. And you start to just
feel...not that you're life is on the line - that's the part
that's different - but you feel what the 60 lb. backpack feels
like. You've got the flack jacket on, you've got your chemical
stuff on, and you know - Mach 3. And it's got charcoal in it.
And then you've got your stuff on underneath that. And you've
got a 15 lb. rifle and its 90 degrees out 'cause we're in Mexico.
And you're standing there and you start to figure out ways to
lie down, just in between takes while they reload. We looked
like turtles. We would get down like this and put our helmet
like that, and there are all these pictures of us going like
this. And then they go, "All right, we're going again,"
and you stand back up. I just started to go...just carrying
this shit, not even with live bullets, just carrying the shit
and standing there is not easy. So that, on top of the discipline
and all the other stuff, you start to really have a lot of respect
for what these guys do, even if they do fuck up. You start to
understand why they fuck up, because it's not a task that I'm
sure is not humanly possible to do perfectly.
Latino
Review: Why don't you do more comedies?
Peter Sarsgard:
Garden State?
Latino
Review: I know, but that's one out of all the other movies we're
talking about.
Peter Sarsgard:
I’m pretty funny in The Dying
Gaul I have coming up. There's a little
comedy in there. It's not just me; it's them.
Latino
Review: It's them?
Peter Sarsgard: Hollywood.
The big them, if you do enough movies - I've done 25 movies
now and a lot of them have not been comedies - at a certain
point it's just a process of natural selection. They stop selection,
you know? Also, I can make a drama better if it's not perfectly
written. I know how to do that, to make it better. A comedy
- a lot of comedies revolve around a premise. He's in her body,
she's in his body. If that premise is just fucked from the beginning,
there's no amount of salvage in saving it. If no one's written
the jokes, I'm not going to particularly come up with them,
you know what I mean?
Latino
Review: How can you save a drama?
Peter Sarsgard:
Oh, by just making it makes sense. I go, "Nobody would
do that after that happened. Are you kidding me? No." And
then we figure out what might happen. I feel like my job most
of the time is just to go ..."Wouldn't happen. How would
that happen? Ok, if you want that to happen, then you'll have
to put this in to make that happen."
Latino
Review: Did you fix anything on Skeleton Key?
Peter Sarsgard:
It's a process of working together on that type of thing. We
certainly had debates about different things. A lot of times
you lock horns with a director - not in an argumentative way,
but in a way that's like Sophoclean dialectic, man. They got
their point of view and you got yours, and the third idea is
the one that's the good one. And that happens. It happened on
Skeleton Key, it happens on a lot of movies. But the guys I
admire are...you see Vince Vaughn get into a movie sometimes
where on the page you would be like, "No way is that thing
going to make it." And I've read some of them and been
like, "No way. That can't possibly work." And I really
admire and actor like that that can turn a comedy around. I
feel like for me I need to have it happening early. (Laughs)
Latino
Review: So where does your sense of humor lie? Do you find it
hard to find things that make you laugh?
Peter Sarsgard:
Well, there are more dumb comedies than there are dumb dramas.
A lot of times when are making a comedy, they're out just to
make money, because they know comedies make more money. So it's
already like they're not trying as hard. But there's like plenty
of...I like the idea of doing a comedy where someone's not just
trying to make people laugh. It's like make people laugh plus
something else.
Latino
Review: Like Garden State.
Peter Sarsgard:
Like Garden State or like Stripes. (Laughs) God, if Stripes
came around and someone offered me the part of that guy who's
like, "You touch my shit, I'll kill you," I'd be all
over that role.
Latino
Review: Should we see this twice?
Peter Sarsgard:
That equals $20 instead of $10. I'm all for them watching it
twice. (Laughter) Absolutely.... they should watch it four times.
Latino
Review: Where do you stand on believing or not believing?
Peter Sarsgard:
I believe that if you believe, it's real. I believe that if
you think it does something, then it does something. If you
think you're having a heart attack and you obsess about it,
you might have a heart attack. Someone hands you this nut and
says you're going to drop dead in two weeks, if you believe
in it enough you might drop dead in two weeks. I feel immune
from it, because I don't believe in it.
Latino
Review: Are you a cynic?
Peter Sarsgard:
No, I'm a Catholic. (Laughter)
Latino
Review: So what do you make of the cameras not working? Is that
just bad mechanics?
Peter Sarsgard:
The cameras not working?
Latino
Review: Yes, that's what Iain (Softley) said - there were days
when the cameras didn't work.
Peter Sarsgard:
That's what Iain believes. I don't mind the cameras not working.
Latino
Review: So does anything creep you out?
Peter Sarsgard:
Yeah. Like Satan. (Laughter)
Latino
Review: Your character comes off as devilish.
Peter Sarsgard:
I'm charmingly devilish.
Latino
Review: So you believe in Satan?
Peter Sarsgard:
No, but I can't shake it, cause I went to an all-boys Jesuit
high school. I was an altar boy. I'm screwed, man. Seriously...
It's like some things you can't...like if I'd grown up with
Voodoo, I'm sure even if I moved to New York and started being
all Bohemian and stuff and somebody handed me the buckeye, I'd
probably be like, "Aaaaahhh." Enough to watch my hands
in the salt water. A friend of mine here believes in that stuff
- my friend Mary. I hung out with her while we were filming
and we were walking down the street and there are these people
on the streets that will sometimes do Voodoo stuff like that,
for the tourists. And this woman gave us some nut or something
and said, "Now you guys have eternal love and you'll have
great sex," and that kind of stuff. Well, she's like my
friend. She's not my lover. She never has been. And so she was
trying to say she thought we were a couple walking down the
street. So, my friend took me back to her house, had me wash
my hands in salt water. We did the stuff, and I was just like,
"Mary, I'm fine." She's like, "Just do it for
me." And we didn't end up having sex.
Latino
Review: And that didn't make you believe
Peter Sarsgard:
That didn't make me believe, because I wasn't going to have
sex with her anyway.
Latino
Review: What else are you working on right now?
Peter Sarsgard:
I've taken a break. I just got a sailboat, so I've
been sailing. I'm kind of cooked.
Latino
Review: You have a lot of films coming out.
Peter Sarsgard:
I do. I have a film that I'm probably going to do in January
with the director of The Dying Gaul, Craig
Lucas. We're setting it up right now. I've really enjoyed working
with him and I'm really...that movie was such a great experience
and I had such an awesome time acting in it. It's probably the
most fun I've ever had acting.
Latino
Review: When is it coming out?
Peter Sarsgard:
It's coming out in October. Strand and Sony are releasing it.
It'll be on just a couple of screens. And we're gonna do another
small movie together in January, probably. And I might be going
to Croatia this fall to research the role, because I play a
Slav. I gotta get my Slavic going on.
Latino
Review: Can you talk about working with Kate and Gena, etc?
Peter Sarsgard:
Kate - I've known her for a long time and worked with her on
a movie a long time ago called Desert Blue. I knew that I liked
her and was psyched to act with her. I knew that we would have
a certain amount of chemistry and just thought it would be great.
Gena I've admired since I started acting and I just wanted to
be in the shadow of her somewhere onscreen and I'm just psyched
that there's like one shot in the movie where both of us are
in it. And John Hurt I've always...I remember seeing 1984 when
I was a kid, with him and Richard Burton, and seeing him on
the table where he's being tortured, and he's unbelievable.
So I've always thought he's fantastic and I hope to be in London
this fall and see him in this play he's gonna do.