The Dukes of Hazzard
An Interview with Johnny Knoxville
Having already
parlayed masochistic stunt videos into a ratings phenomenon
for MTV, Johnny Knoxville is still attempting to match the success
over in Hollywood. To date, the Jackass co-creator has beaten
cinematic thugs with the Rock, played an ill-intentioned alien
in Men in Black 2, and can even boast an upcoming
role in the new Farrelly brothers film, The
Ringer. This Friday, Knoxville, a Tennessee
native, stays a little closer to home by playing a rebellious
good ol' boy in The
Dukes of Hazzard. Here he discusses why he
just can't keep his pants on, the origins of his television
show, and how a grown man in a kiddie pool still haunts his
dreams.
So
how many times did you flash Seann exactly?
Johnny
Knoxville: As often as I could. These pants just kept
falling off the whole film.
Supposedly
you threw a salt and pepper shaker at his groin and he told
you that it wasn’t going to keep happening?
Johnny
Knoxville: Actually that was the last night he went
out with me. That was one of the first nights of the film.
You made
a name for yourself videotaping stunts. Were you not as interested
in doing them for this movie because of that. Did you kind of
want to steer away from it?
Johnny
Knoxville: No, I mean the stunt guys are gnarly. They
put it on the line everyday. I mean it’s such a different
animal, the Jackass stunts and the movie stunts. In Jackass
I just had to fail when I did the stunt. If I successfully did
the stunt it’s like, “Oh, let’s do it again.
Let’s do it until you don’t get it!” For this
you had to train for the fighting. I trained for about a month,
a couple of hours a day with Chad Stahelski who worked with
Keanu Reeves on The Matrix. And Seann was working his ass off
training with Bobby Ore, the best stunt driver in the world
for all the stuff he did. Four hours a day and he’d just
be drenched in sweat. He got damn good, too. He did a lot of
the stuff in the film. Some of the one-eighties and ninety degree
drifts and what not. There’s one moment when they come
out of Cooter’s garage, we’re top speeding real
quick because we’re ratcheted out, and he makes the right
hand turn and the breaks go out. He still managed to pull it
back in the road and slam it into park so we could stop. We
would’ve been flipping over and over if I had been at
the wheel.
You weren’t
jealous that he got to do all the driving?
Johnny
Knoxville: No no. He had the car. They gave me the
girls. “Ooh, hey! You got a car!” (laughs)
There’s
a moment in Jackass when you’re pacing right before they’re
about to shoot a bean bag at you. Is that the kind of thing
you draw on when you have to act afraid in a film scene?
Johnny
Knoxville: What they didn’t show in the movie
was the two shots before that. One hit me in the leg and one
goes by my elbow. And if it had hit my elbow it would’ve
broke it in all kinds of places. And the pacing back and forth
was me angry and scared. But yeah, it’s pretty terrifying.
No, I think...God, there’s ladies at the table I can’t-
[Several female
journalists at the table encourage Mr. Knoxville to proceed.]
There’s horrible
stuff that happened on Jackass that didn’t have to do
with pain...physically. It’s like more emotional and mental
damage. Let me try to put it in really nice terms. We were shooting
Pontius. We were going to send those pictures into Playgirl.
And so we did this photo shoot in one of our producer’s
backyards. And we put him in little cowboy boots and toy guns
and hats and little swimming pools. Making the pictures. Oiling
him up. And, at the end of the shoot, he kind of did something
that you really only do when you’re alone. But he did
it in front of seven full grown men. It was horrible. Absolutely
horrible. And then he got up and chased everyone, and tried
to hug them. Doesn’t get much more frightening than that.
And what
do you have to think about when you have to become aroused for,
say, the John Waters movie?
Johnny
Knoxville: Same thing. I hate myself for it.
Were
any of the actors in the film afraid that you might surprise
them with certain...
Johnny
Knoxville: No. They know that I may be a little off
center but I do think of myself as a southern gentleman. You
can’t do that in front of girls. Just fellas.
How much
of a good ol’ boy are you?
Johnny
Knoxville: Raised in Tennessee, you know? I have the
southern attitude of being polite in front of the ladies. My
cousin said tip your hat to the ladies and put the punch through
the wall. So hopefully that’s accurate. But usually it’s
me who’s getting put through the wall.
Were you
a fan of Jay Chandrasekhar’s previous movies?
Johnny
Knoxville: Super Troopers is...you know I hadn’t
seen it until I was getting ready to meet him. And I went and
rented it. I was just angry at myself for missing it the first
time. It’s a classic, you know, American comedy. I thought
it was great.
Any other
projects coming up?
Johnny
Knoxville: I have a film coming out in October. It’s
a Miramax film that Quentin Tarantino executive-produced. Katrina
Holden Bronson wrote and directed a really beautiful script
that we film in my home state of Tennessee. It’s called
Daltry
Calhoun. And I saw the movie and I’m
very excited about it. The girl I had the baby with fourteen
years ago kind of took the baby and went. Brings the baby girl,
she’s now fourteen, the mother’s now dying and I’m
going to bond with my child for the first time. So having a
nine year old, it meant a lot. And being able to shoot in my
home state.
What age
do you think you'll be able to show your daughter your Jackass
work?
Johnny
Knoxville: She's seen some of the stuff where daddy
doesn't get hurt or where it's not naughty. So, after showing
her that two minute tape...(laughs) I don't know. She's a very,
very, very smart girl but maybe wait a couple of years. A couple
or ten.
You got
to hear a lot of Willie Nelson's jokes on the set I take it?
Johnny
Knoxville: They're great. He tells them with such conviction.
It's all day long he tells those jokes. I'm his biggest fan.
Roger Miller taught him a lot of those jokes. He just, one right
after another. Man, I love that guy so much. You hear Willie
do There was a man from Nantucket. (Johnny kisses the tips of
his fingers to convy the exquisiteness) He did There was a man
from Boston. Who knew there was a guy from Boston? I didn't
know.
Steve-O
has said that people come up to him in bars and just hit him
over the head with a bottle. Do things like that happen to you?
How do you respond?
Johnny
Knoxville: It depends on whether it's a girl or a guy.
If a guy comes up and hits me...going to hit him back as much
as possible. But girl, after she takes a lighter and puts it
out on your arm or a cigarette, you're like, "O-kay. Thank
you." I've had girls come up, "Oh, I love your show,"
and bam, hit me right in the chin!
You've
gotten very far because of the show. Do you ever regret taking
that direction?
Johnny
Knoxville: Absolutely not. As weird as it is to say,
I'm proud of Jackass. It got me here and doing what I'm doing.
And me and all my friends going around the world being screwups.
We got paid. Turning something you're good at and making it
into a profession. Well, I'm really good at failing so we made
a show and a movie about it.
How did
it start?
Johnny
Knoxville: My involvement in Jackass, I was writing
for magazines and one of the magazines I was writing for was
Big Brother. It's a skateboarding mag and they were doing skate
videos. You know skating and then people doing really stupid
stuff. That's where I came in. I was going to write an article.
I sent it to a number of magazines where I was going to test
self-defense equipment on myself. Everyone said, "Yeah,
we'd love to have it but we can't really support it until after
you're done." Because I was going to shoot myself with
a bulletproof vest and all that. Big Brother said, "We'll
do it." And Jeff goes, "Why don't you film it?"
I was like, "Okay, I was just going to write an article."
And we did and put that in video number two. And did some more.
Meanwhile Bam was doing his CKY videos on the east coast. We
just kind of joined up and did Jackass.
What do
you think of Viva la Bam and Wildboyz?
Johnny
Knoxville: I mean the guys are doing great. I went
and shot with Bam and I shoot with Steve-O and Pontius a lot.
I love their shows. I just went to Russia with the Wilboyz for
a couple of weeks shooting over there. Boy can they act ugly!
And before that I went to Argentina with them. It's such a good
luxury. "Where you guys going? Can you get me a ticket
and I'll come with you and..." It's so good.
How far
do you want to push the envelope in the films you're making?
Johnny
Knoxville: Well I got Jackass under my belt and John
Waters' film under my belt. And then the Farrelly Brothers comedy.
Play me and trade me, man. I want to take some chances.
Was
backstory for your character ever discussed? Luke Duke is an
interesting choice to name your child?
Johnny
Knoxville: I've heard more odd names. A guy that used
to work for my father was named Woodrow Wilson Boxcar Johnson
Jr. And his father wasn't even a senior. So back home we heard
some pretty crazy names.
Ever encounter
any interesting lawbreakers like the Dukes growing up?
Johnny
Knoxville: Oh, hell yeah. In my father's tire store,
they're everywhere. Boxcar, sweetheart of a guy. I'd go over
there, and he was a groover for my father. I'd be like four
years old, and he would work with me and kind of play with me.
Wasn't the greatest thief. He got picked up once for something.
And they brought him in and said, "Mr. Wilson, we know
you robbed that store. We got your fingerprints." He said,
"You don't got my fingerprints, I was wearing gloves!"
Yeah, that's a true story.
The Dukes of Hazzard Opens August 5th