Perhaps for the best?
Commented By: El Jeffe on 2008-10-14 05:19:57
Rhode's character was not the most instrumential in Iron Man, so replacing the actor is not really, in my opinion, a huge event (while it is surely newsworthy though, particularly for a site that focuses on all movie news). I am more familiar with Don Cheadle's work and think he is a superior actor. This is, of course, just my opinion. So perhaps if others agree, then this is a good thing.
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Come On!
Commented By: Uatu The Watcher on 2008-10-14 05:37:48
I know Don Cheadle is an awsome talented actor. He was absolutely great in "Reign Over Me". However I really liked Terrence Howard in "Iron Man". He played a main character in the film & was wonderful. Iron Man did great because everything flowed. Marvel can't just replace a major character in the sequel & expect to so as well.
Sure "The Dark Knight" replaced Rachael, but Rachael was not that much of a major character in the first film, "Batman Begins". Rachael's charcter became more important in "The Dark Knight". Rachael was actually a character that was on screen alot & what happened to her effected alot of other characters & outcomes in "The Dark Knight". Rachael in the first film, "Batman Begins", was not that crucial to the story. She was a supporting character in the first that wasn't as involved as she was in the second. So a new actress didn't change that much of the atmosphere. Besides, Batman 2 came out 3 years after Batman 1. The image wasn't still fresh in people's minds, so a new face didn't effect the flow.
Now with "Iron Man 2" coming out just 2 years after "Iron Man 1", the image will still be fresh in people's minds. & A new face will effect the steady flow Iron Man as been enjoying all this time. Rhodey was very involved with the main character, Tony Stark. He helped save Stark's life & he was on screen alot, including the beginning of the movie. Rhodey's character was a big part of the movie & effected alot of the outcome of Iron Man's story.
One of the most talked about things between all of the people who saw "Iron Man", was War Machine in the sequel. One of the hottest topics was to see Rhodey as War Machine in the next film. "Iron Man 1" even gave a tease with Howard & a silver Iron Man suit. Alot of buzz for "Iron Man 2" is Rhodey as War Machine.
Now if one of the most popular characters & one of the biggest interests in the sequel is played by a new face, that will soil the excitment & joy of the sequel. Howard was an important part of "Iron Man 1" as Rhodey & a most desired part for "Iron Man 2". & Now the desire is gone.
I know Don Cheadle is an astonishing & accomplished actor, but Terrence Howard built up the electricity in people for the sequel.
How can you establish one man as a solid core character with something to give for the sequel. & With the fans anxiously voicing their opinions on waiting to see that man give it to them in the sequel. That being Howard as War Machine. & Substitute that man with a diffent man. A fine actor, yes. But how can they do that?
In conclusion, it's like having a origin story & watching a actor establish himself as the soon to be Super Hero, & then right as soon as he becomes the Hero, it's a different actor. It doesn't work. You can't have Christian Bale Begin Batman & then have George Clooney be The Dark Knight. That's why Batman Begins Again! Because changing any of the heroes or Super Heroes, kills the franchise. Notice how Alfred, Fox, & Gordin were all the same actors. The supporting heroes must stay intact as well. But in Terrance Howard's sake or Rhodey & War Machine's sake, he is more than just supporting, he is one of the Super Hereos.
Dear Marvel,
It doesn't work if you change the Hero in the middle of the story. Especially a Hero the people were looking forward to seeing.
How do you get Rhodey all ready to be War Machine, & then when he finally flies, he's a different Rhodey? Coming from a company who's livelihood is Super Heroes. I figured you would understand this.
P.S. - If Mr. Howard refuses to return to the sequel, it may be smart to either pull a Dark Knight, & kill off Rhodey as they did with Rachael. With or without a new actor.
My opion is maybe Mr. Howard would be willing to play a small part or just one scene in which Rhodey is killed by the main villain, an accident, or something in which Stark feels responible for. & This could be the reason Tony Stark begins to drink & drink. The death of Rhodey would take away people's chance to see War Machine, but it would give new life into Iron Man 2's story. I for one am willing to sacrifice War Machine for the better of Iron Man. & Maybe if Rhodey died, there's always a chance some one else, a different character, could be War Machine. I know thats not in the comics, but this is a movie & this could do the movie better justice, while still getting to see War Machine.
All I'm trying to say to Marvel is......
A new Rhodey will just not do. Either try harder to get Terrance Howard back or find some way to meet each other half way. & Have him be in the movie, if only for a short moment, to some how be removed from the rest of the movie in some logical way. Or get creative & find a way to remove Rhodey from the sequel without having him played by another actor. Or keep War Machine without Rhodey.
If Iron Man is in die hard need of Super Hero help, why not introduce HawkEye or somebody else like that? Didn't I hear Thor was supposed to be in the sequel, maybe?
Just think outside the box Marvel. You don't have to play this card. You don't have to risk anything. You don't have to do this. Marvel Comics has thousands of characters & The Avengers have tons of members that could easily take the place of War Machine, & easily make the audience forget about War Machine. Because Marvel could choose from many of various Avenger characters that would please any true believers eyes.
HawkEye, The Vision (a robotic hero sorta like Iron Man), Wonder Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, or maybe just more of Samuel L. Jackson's Nick Fury would do. & That is just to name a few.
Come on Marvel! I am a true believer in you! You can do this!
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better fit?
Commented By: reddog on 2008-10-14 06:42:25
I readily agree that Don Cheadle fits the role as a mechanical engineer/fighter pilot. but it does place a blemish on the movie for not carrying over the same cast. If the movie is as successful as the Dark Knight, then it might not matter seeing that movie had a cast upheaval itself.
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Michael Jai White
Commented By: MrSammich on 2008-10-14 06:44:05
I agree he is just about perfect. And being in the summer's biggest blockbuster will be the first step to getting him in some decent movies again.
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Commented By: Christian on 2008-10-14 07:30:51
They should get Howard back! I don't like Don Cheadle and everytime they replace somebody they wind up making it there own!
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Tyrese instead of MJW
Commented By: T'Challa on 2008-10-14 08:47:57
Would people get off of Michael Jai White's dick?!?!
Every damn time a comic movie comes up with a black character, everyone always picks MJW. His role in the Dark Knight was the closest he's gotten in years. Maybe he's just not good enough..There ARE other black actors in Hollywood if you didn't know. Even get an Unknown...
I'd rather see Tyrese Gibson as War Machine. Plus that'd get him out of the way of playing Luke Cage, which is a horrible notion.
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MICHAEL JAI WHITE IS THE BLACK PANTHER
Commented By: rashid on 2008-10-14 10:01:44
Don cheatles is a superb actor but it wont feel right with him in the movie. of topic michael jai white is and should play the black panther whenever they make that movie, perfect role for him.
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RACIST CUNT!
on 2008-10-14 10:20:06
YOU BURRITO EATING LAME MOTHER FUCKER!
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Come on, EL Guapo
Commented By: Soon on 2008-10-14 10:21:15
Hopefully you were joking about that comment( "black community" rant)because I like this site.You don't really stereo-type do you? Not with a name like El Guapo......ah anyways, if you were joking ,you got me.Now,Back to movies!
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im a black guy
Commented By: daniel on 2008-10-14 11:33:11
he doesn't owe an apology. there's a movie that's coming out with a bunch of latino gang memebers. and he was going on and on about how racist the movie was. like there aren't any latino gang memebers. and he's going to make these statements. i would've have say anything. if wasn't complaing about that movie.
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All of u... chill out
Commented By: The Mexican Avenger on 2008-10-14 11:36:13
Guat? Yes... this is only news with "El Feo" taste... so, calm down... The big deal is that now we could have another movie without the original crew... I hate when that happens, 'cause at the end you know this movie get stained of that...
Focus, people! Don't see this article as a racist one... it's as funny as people say that latino, specially mexican still travel on donkeys with the sombrero and sarape... so, moving on, my friends...
P.S. Vote for Pedro!
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CHILL PEOPLE!
Commented By: 420band on 2008-10-14 11:51:24
THE STORY IS IRONMAN 2!
WTF? TERRANCE HOWARD WHAT WERE ASKING FOR? LIKE 10 MILLION OR SOMETHING? DUDE JUST FUCKED UP A DECENT WAR MACHINE STORY AND THE GOOD VIBES THAT ALL THE CAST CREATED ON THE FIRST ONE.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL SIGNED ON FOR THIS! NOTHING BAD TO SAY FOR CHEADLE HE'S JUST DOING HIS THING,AND I'M A HUGE FAN OF HIS STUFF! BUT THIS ONE IS PRETTY HARD TO IMAGINE.. BUT AGAIN IV'E GOT FAITH IN JON AND ROBERT AND THIS WILL STILL BE AN AWESOME SPECTACLE OF A MOVIE BUT YES, THIS IS HUGE NEWS!
OH AND GEORGE,DUDE EASE OF THE GAS A LITTLE MAN..
WE SHOULD ALL JUST GET ALONG..
I FORGIVE YA BUT DAMN BRO THAT WAS HARSH(and a little funny) but harsh
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racist?
Commented By: !_! on 2008-10-14 12:24:05
how is the intro a racist remark? wow all of you should just shut the fuck up. you guys get to worked up with a simple remark. it didnt even sound racist at all. you laugh at comedians racist remark which are by far more RACIST than what george said. you should read it more than once. u all get to serious. as for howard not being in ironman 2 just cause of money. yes he made the biggest mistake ever, i heard war machine plays a bigger role in ironman 2, this could of probably boost his status but he f*cked up bad.
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Guys
Commented By: El Guapo on 2008-10-14 13:25:27
Comment on the article, not my dumb jokes. Don't call me a racist then leave racist remarks because I'll just delete them. By the way, I'm wondering if any of you have ever seen a South Park episode?? Calm down people. They're dumb jokes. You're looking into it waaaay too deeply. I'll remove it since everyone seems to want to get their panties in a bunch and not focus on Don Cheadle.
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i'm cool with it
Commented By: GuvyerV on 2008-10-14 13:49:53
after seeing traitor and reflecting on it, i'm certain cheadle can handle the role. i think he'd bring more gravitas to it than howard, even though i'll miss him.
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QFT George
Commented By: !_! on 2008-10-14 14:09:32
yup south park is far more racist then what you posted.
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You're not funny though...
on 2008-10-14 15:10:59
The problem with Mister El Guapo is that he thinks he's funny, or that perhaps reporting movie news on this site is the perfect place to peddle his edgy brand of comedy. I personally don't care, but I could do without since, yeah, it doesn't read well. You have zero personality on this page dude. You're not Chris Rock, we don't know what you sound like, or how you're style of writing, so it doesn't connect. Seriously, you suck a bit.
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This Freakin SUCKS!!!!!
Commented By: Brandon B. on 2008-10-14 15:41:28
Ive said this in other comments ...but if theres one thing i cant stand is when u keep the character in a sequel with a different actor...It takes away thepurpose to the character........I mean theres so many people out of a job with this whole president Sh**!! like is freakin 13 or 14 million not anough!!!! geez! jerkoff .......and sec. whos casting yeah Don. is a great actor but hes not a war machine !!! he looks 50 !!!! I mean picture it its Martin Luther King III .....as war machine .......geez this pisses me off ....that just ruined war machine for a lot of fans!!
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I SUPPORT EL GUAPO
Commented By: Jonathan Marin on 2008-10-14 16:16:23
I don't see a racist thing in this article, and I'm not to upset that T H is no longer playing WM. He sounded like such a fag in the movie, "Tony, oh Tony, don't do that."
El Guapo for life.
I agree that Spawn is a better fit than Cheadle.
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cheadle = war machine
Commented By: yo on 2008-10-14 16:20:58
bottom line: Cheadle will rock as WAR MACHINE.. You can tell he's hungry for the role. I say Marvel made an excellent choice... Remember how people felt about Heath Ledger as Joker @ first?
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lol
Commented By: El Guapo on 2008-10-14 18:17:53
I love how the guy who claims I'm the bitch and the coward is the one posting anonymously on the internet.
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on 2008-10-14 19:13:07
what the hell? i've read the article three times and i still can't see anything he said that was racist. i love this site, and i don't always agree with guapo, but he didn't even do anything to make people mad. i think it's too soon to already sign on another actor if they just lost one. but don cheadle would actually be an alright war machine. no oscars or anyhting, but he would be alright.
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Commented By: El Guapo on 2008-10-14 19:29:22
That's because I deleted the joke. I got tired of people commenting on it instead of the actual article about Don Cheadle.
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on 2008-10-14 19:31:33
NEXT TIME, BABY
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on 2008-10-14 20:42:38
I say lets make Beverly hills chihuahua the highest grossing movie of all time, hell its way better than that boring piece of shit that was TDK.
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The rising Rocket as War Machine?
Commented By: RED|TAPE on 2008-10-14 22:39:42
I would need to see the script. Don Cheadle aka rocket from the movie colors back in the day is a solid A list actor now. If war machine’s part is small and if it lacks complexity then I think we will see Cheadle's worst performance ever. If war machine is written as a significant character with a complex under tone then Cheadle will excel at the role and really bite in to the character.
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Wrong
on 2008-10-15 12:41:14
You cant place your "joke" at the front of your article and then talk about Don Cheadle without thinking that would cause problems. If you thought it was funny, then your a racist. Remember it is not what yu think, but what others would think. What you posted was wrong... wrong... wrong and you should stop this.
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War Machine
Commented By: El Cucuy on 2008-10-15 12:43:15
And by the way Guapo, Don Cheadle is a lame ass casting decision. I don't care if he's a good actor. He's obviously not right for the part. Sure, Terrance Howard is a pretty boy but Cheadle is to short, thin and funny looking to be in the War Machne suit. Sure Robert Downey did strike some people as not the right choice at first and he proved them wrong but mark my words, it's gonna look and feel a tad silly watching Cheadle be that character. There are plenty of talented black actors they could've chose from. Why do they all ways have to go with "everyone's favorite" or "celebrity" starrers? It's lame but thats show biz. It nearly sucks all the time.
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Ya
Commented By: El Guapo on 2008-10-15 12:50:38
I don't really think Cheadle is right for the role either, which is why I was talking about Jai White for the part.
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All Good
Commented By: Soon on 2008-10-16 07:50:28
I didn't think you were racist with the article. I love your articles-great movie news.Terrence Howard is good,but so is Don Cheadle. Lets save Michael Jai White for Luke Cage-maybe?
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put the line back in
on 2008-10-16 16:14:13
I say put the "joke" back in if you think your are not wrong... but you will not do it. You could say it was freedom of speech, but you can't without looking like an ass. So, place the original line back in...let everyone read it.
If not here it is:
http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:_AF3XBYbpjIJ:latinoreview.com/news/no-iron-man-sequel-for-terrence-howard-5532+%22http+www+latinoreview+com+news+no+iron+man+sequel+for+terrence+howard+5532%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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Hmmm
Commented By: El Guapo on 2008-10-16 16:38:08
He would be good for Luke Cage. I see him at the gym all the time. I'll ask him if he's ever had discussions about playing Cage next time I see him.
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